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2011 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWZF3C51BT188900. Photo 1 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2011 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWZF3C51BT188900. Photo 2 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2011 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWZF3C51BT188900. Photo 3 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2011 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWZF3C51BT188900. Photo 4 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2011 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWZF3C51BT188900. Photo 5 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2011 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWZF3C51BT188900. Photo 6 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog.

Engine1.6L Fuel typeGasoline

TransmissionAutomatic Drive typeFront Wheel Drive

130 405 mi

Minor Dent/Scratches

CT - Hartford Springfield

Run and Drive

Ключ відсутній
2009 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWML33559TX35292. Photo 1 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2009 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWML33559TX35292. Photo 2 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2009 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWML33559TX35292. Photo 3 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2009 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWML33559TX35292. Photo 4 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2009 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWML33559TX35292. Photo 5 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2009 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWML33559TX35292. Photo 6 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog.

Engine1.6L Fuel typeGasoline

TransmissionAutomatic Drive typeFront Wheel Drive

74 745 mi

Side

OK - Tulsa

Stationary

2014 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWZG3C55ET800209. Photo 1 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2014 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWZG3C55ET800209. Photo 2 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2014 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWZG3C55ET800209. Photo 3 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2014 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWZG3C55ET800209. Photo 4 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2014 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWZG3C55ET800209. Photo 5 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2014 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWZG3C55ET800209. Photo 6 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog.

Engine1.6L · Inline-4 · Turbo · 181 HP Fuel typeGasoline

TransmissionAutomatic Drive typeFront Wheel Drive

92 742 mi

Normal Wear

Metro Dc (MD)

Stationary

2011 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWZF3C50BT188404. Photo 1 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2011 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWZF3C50BT188404. Photo 2 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2011 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWZF3C50BT188404. Photo 3 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2011 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWZF3C50BT188404. Photo 4 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2011 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWZF3C50BT188404. Photo 5 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2011 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWZF3C50BT188404. Photo 6 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog.

Engine1.6L Fuel typeGasoline

TransmissionAutomatic Drive typeFront Wheel Drive

158 354 mi

Side, Mechanical

PA - Philadelphia East-sublot

Run and Drive

2020 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLV7C07L2M04759. Photo 1 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2020 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLV7C07L2M04759. Photo 2 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2020 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLV7C07L2M04759. Photo 3 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2020 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLV7C07L2M04759. Photo 4 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2020 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLV7C07L2M04759. Photo 5 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2020 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLV7C07L2M04759. Photo 6 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog.

Engine2L · Inline-4 · Turbo · 189 HP Fuel typeGasoline

TransmissionAutomatic Drive typeFront Wheel Drive

30 550 mi

Front End

Seattle (WA)

Run and Drive

Salvage статус
2020 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLV7C00L2M65080. Photo 1 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2020 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLV7C00L2M65080. Photo 2 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2020 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLV7C00L2M65080. Photo 3 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2020 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLV7C00L2M65080. Photo 4 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2020 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLV7C00L2M65080. Photo 5 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2020 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLV7C00L2M65080. Photo 6 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog.

Engine2L · Inline-4 · Turbo · 189 HP Fuel typeGasoline

TransmissionAutomatic Drive typeFront Wheel Drive

74 564 mi

Front End

North Hollywood (CA)

Run and Drive

2016 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLN9C51G2B30880. Photo 1 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2016 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLN9C51G2B30880. Photo 2 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2016 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLN9C51G2B30880. Photo 3 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2016 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLN9C51G2B30880. Photo 4 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2016 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLN9C51G2B30880. Photo 5 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2016 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLN9C51G2B30880. Photo 6 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog.

Engine2L · Inline-4 · Turbo · 189 HP Fuel typeGasoline

TransmissionAutomatic Drive typeFront Wheel Drive

113 916 mi

Front End

Los Angeles South (CA)

Stationary

Salvage статус
2014 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWZF3C55ET492364. Photo 1 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2014 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWZF3C55ET492364. Photo 2 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2014 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWZF3C55ET492364. Photo 3 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2014 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWZF3C55ET492364. Photo 4 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2014 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWZF3C55ET492364. Photo 5 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2014 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWZF3C55ET492364. Photo 6 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog.

Engine1.6L Fuel typeGasoline

TransmissionAutomatic Drive typeFront Wheel Drive

121 067 mi

Rear End

CA - Sun Valley

Run and Drive

2017 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLN5C33H2E33054. Photo 1 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2017 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLN5C33H2E33054. Photo 2 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2017 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLN5C33H2E33054. Photo 3 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2017 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLN5C33H2E33054. Photo 4 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2017 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLN5C33H2E33054. Photo 5 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2017 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLN5C33H2E33054. Photo 6 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog.

Engine1.5L · Inline-3 · Turbo · 134 HP Fuel typeOther

TransmissionAutomatic Drive typeFront Wheel Drive

179 599 mi

Front End

Toronto North (ONTARIO)

Stationary

Salvage статус
2009 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWML33549TX33727. Photo 1 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2009 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWML33549TX33727. Photo 2 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2009 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWML33549TX33727. Photo 3 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2009 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWML33549TX33727. Photo 4 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2009 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWML33549TX33727. Photo 5 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2009 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWML33549TX33727. Photo 6 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog.

Engine1.6L · Inline-4 · 118 HP Fuel typeGasoline

TransmissionAutomatic Drive typeFront Wheel Drive

119 806 mi

Rear End, Rear End

Atlanta East (GA)

Run and Drive

Salvage статус
2017 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLN5C55H2E32618. Photo 1 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2017 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLN5C55H2E32618. Photo 2 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2017 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLN5C55H2E32618. Photo 3 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2017 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLN5C55H2E32618. Photo 4 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2017 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLN5C55H2E32618. Photo 5 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2017 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLN5C55H2E32618. Photo 6 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog.

Engine1.5L · Inline-3 · Turbo · 134 HP Fuel typeGasoline

TransmissionAutomatic Drive typeFront Wheel Drive

86 683 mi

Front End, Biohazard/Chemical

Austin North (TX)

Stationary

Salvage статус
2016 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLN5C54G2E29630. Photo 1 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2016 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLN5C54G2E29630. Photo 2 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2016 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLN5C54G2E29630. Photo 3 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2016 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLN5C54G2E29630. Photo 4 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2016 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLN5C54G2E29630. Photo 5 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2016 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLN5C54G2E29630. Photo 6 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog.

Engine1.5L Fuel typeGasoline

TransmissionAutomatic Drive typeFront Wheel Drive

60 946 mi

Rear End, Side

CO - Denver Central

Run and Drive

2016 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLN5C58G2E30246. Photo 1 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2016 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLN5C58G2E30246. Photo 2 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2016 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLN5C58G2E30246. Photo 3 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2016 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLN5C58G2E30246. Photo 4 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2016 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLN5C58G2E30246. Photo 5 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2016 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLN5C58G2E30246. Photo 6 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog.

Engine1.5L Fuel typeGasoline

TransmissionAutomatic Drive typeFront Wheel Drive

0 mi

Front End, Rear End

AZ - Phoenix North

Stationary

Salvage статус
2019 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLU5C53K2G04140. Photo 1 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2019 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLU5C53K2G04140. Photo 2 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2019 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLU5C53K2G04140. Photo 3 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2019 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLU5C53K2G04140. Photo 4 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2019 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLU5C53K2G04140. Photo 5 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2019 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLU5C53K2G04140. Photo 6 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog.

Engine2L · Inline-4 · Turbo · 189 HP Fuel typeGasoline

TransmissionAutomatic Drive typeAll Wheel Drive

48 946 mi

Rear End

BOSTON - Shirley (ma)

Run and Drive

2008 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWML33508TP97200. Photo 1 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2008 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWML33508TP97200. Photo 2 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2008 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWML33508TP97200. Photo 3 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2008 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWML33508TP97200. Photo 4 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2008 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWML33508TP97200. Photo 5 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2008 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWML33508TP97200. Photo 6 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog.

Engine1.6L Fuel typeGasoline

TransmissionManual Drive typeFront Wheel Drive

120 802 mi

Front End

TX - Houston

Run and Drive

2010 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWML3C57ATX51675. Photo 1 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2010 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWML3C57ATX51675. Photo 2 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2010 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWML3C57ATX51675. Photo 3 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2010 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWML3C57ATX51675. Photo 4 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2010 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWML3C57ATX51675. Photo 5 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2010 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWML3C57ATX51675. Photo 6 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog.

Engine1.6L Fuel typeGasoline

TransmissionManual Drive typeFront Wheel Drive

154 479 mi

Mechanical

UT - Salt Lake City

Run and Drive

2013 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWZF3C56DT491612. Photo 1 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2013 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWZF3C56DT491612. Photo 2 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2013 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWZF3C56DT491612. Photo 3 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2013 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWZF3C56DT491612. Photo 4 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2013 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWZF3C56DT491612. Photo 5 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2013 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWZF3C56DT491612. Photo 6 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog.

Engine1.6L · Inline-4 · 121 HP Fuel typeGasoline

TransmissionAutomatic Drive typeFront Wheel Drive

115 726 mi

Normal Wear

Louisville North (KY)

Run and Drive

Salvage статус
2019 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLU1C51K2F29639. Photo 1 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2019 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLU1C51K2F29639. Photo 2 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2019 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLU1C51K2F29639. Photo 3 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2019 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLU1C51K2F29639. Photo 4 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2019 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLU1C51K2F29639. Photo 5 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2019 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLU1C51K2F29639. Photo 6 of 6 from IAAI auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog.

Engine1.5L · Inline-3 · Turbo · 134 HP Fuel typeGasoline

TransmissionAutomatic Drive typeAll Wheel Drive

87 444 mi

Front End

Concord (NC)

Run and Drive

2012 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWZF3C53CT189225. Photo 1 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2012 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWZF3C53CT189225. Photo 2 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2012 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWZF3C53CT189225. Photo 3 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2012 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWZF3C53CT189225. Photo 4 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2012 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWZF3C53CT189225. Photo 5 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2012 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWZF3C53CT189225. Photo 6 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog.

Engine1.6L Fuel typeGasoline

TransmissionAutomatic Drive typeFront Wheel Drive

138 530 mi

Front End

SC - Spartanburg

Run and Drive

Salvage статус
2016 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLN5C55G2E30950. Photo 1 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2016 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLN5C55G2E30950. Photo 2 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2016 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLN5C55G2E30950. Photo 3 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2016 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLN5C55G2E30950. Photo 4 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2016 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLN5C55G2E30950. Photo 5 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog. 2016 Mini Cooper Clubman, VIN WMWLN5C55G2E30950. Photo 6 of 6 from Copart auction. OpenDataCar US salvage catalog.

Engine1.5L Fuel typeGasoline

TransmissionAutomatic Drive typeFront Wheel Drive

76 414 mi

Front End

NC - China Grove

Run and Drive

Browse MINI models

Why Buy Mini from USA

Copart and IAAI auctions list 200-500 Mini vehicles daily. The average price for a 2018-2020 Cooper is $8,000 to $12,000, which is 35-40% cheaper than the European market. This significant price difference makes buying a Mini from the USA a smart choice for budget-conscious buyers.

Most Popular Mini Models at Auction

When it comes to popular Mini models at auction, several stand out due to their performance, style, and affordability. Here are a few you should consider:

  • Convertible - This stylish model combines fun and functionality, making it a favorite among those who enjoy open-air driving.
  • Cooper - Known for its sporty handling and compact design, the Cooper remains a top choice for city dwellers.
  • Countryman - As the largest Mini model, it offers more space and versatility while maintaining the brand's distinctive character.
  • John Cooper Works - For those seeking a performance boost, the John Cooper Works variant delivers enhanced power and sporty features.

What to Look for When Choosing

When selecting a Mini at auction, there are a few practical tips to keep in mind:

  • Avoid vehicles with significant frame damage or structural issues, as repairs can be costly.
  • Look for models with mileage below 60,000 miles for better longevity. Higher mileage may indicate more wear and tear.
  • Be cautious of models from years known for specific issues, such as the 2013 Cooper, which faced some electrical problems.

How Much Does It Cost to Import Mini

Understanding the total cost of importing a Mini is crucial. For example, if you purchase a car for $10,000 at auction, you should factor in additional costs: shipping will typically be around $1,800, and customs fees can range from $2,500 to $4,000. This means your total cost will likely be between $14,000 and $16,000. To get a better estimate tailored to your specific situation, check out our calculator.

If you're interested in a fun driving experience, consider checking out the Cooper or the Convertible. Both models offer a unique blend of performance and style, making them excellent choices for your next vehicle.

Also, if you’re a fan of BMW, you might want to explore other options within the same corporate group. Check out the BMW models for some great alternatives.